On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 21:04 +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at> > wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:02:13PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III > wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 22:50 +0200, Claus Herwig wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > as I've to compile a new kernel for one of my vserver > boxes, it's > > > time to come back to this much loved question: > > > > > > Which (vanilla) kernel and which vserver patch version > should I use > > > for a production system? > > > > > > I know this question isn't entirely new, but even after > scanning > > > through the last months of mailing list posts I'm missing > a simple > > > answer ;-) > > > > > > The website states 2.6.22.19 + vs2.2.0.7, which is, well, > ancient > > > (1.5 years old i.E.) > > > > > > A second look at the website says 2.6.30.1 + > vs2.3.0.36.14, which is > > > experimental, what (at least for me) means that I > shouldn't use it > > > on a production system. > > > > > > Then I read in some other post, that it is of course > useable in > > > production - which just leads to another question: Why is > it called > > > experimental? > > > > Funny, I was looking at this today as I need to rebuild one > of our > > vserver hosts. We've been using kernel 2.6.28 and 29. > We've had a few > > issues - a nasty kernel bug in both that occasionally > requires a cold > > boot (!) and constant segfaults in OSSEC. We've needed to > be on those > > kernels because of even worse problems with iSCSI in older > kernels and > > we've learned to avoid the hang problem. It still scares > the living > > daylights out of me and we are eagerly awaiting 2.6.30 which > apparently > > fixes this bug. However, when I mouse over the link to > 2.6.30.1 + > > vs2.3.0.36.14, it still says pre3 so I am assuming it is not > yet ready > > for even daring production. Is that true? Thanks - John > > > the person supposed to update (i.e. volunteered to maintain > the > list on the wiki) obviously didn't do so for some time now, > and therefore it would be good to read the 'red note' above > the > experimental matrix and check out: > > http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ > > that's great - except that this is merely a list of files without that > info which says while patch is "development", vs "experimental"? > Obviously, it's great to have access here (damn the outdated list!!!), > but I think we probably need more help here... > > -jf > I think Herbert and Daniel are focused on code (as they should be). There was a movement afoot a few months ago to help out by updating the web site and documentation. We're up to our eyeballs with a startup but there were a number of other folks willing to step up to the plate. Whatever became of all that? I'm sure Herbert and Daniel (hope I got the names right) can really use the help. This is a great product that we'd like to see flourish - John -- John A. Sullivan III Open Source Development Corporation +1 207-985-7880 jsullivan@opensourcedevel.com http://www.spiritualoutreach.com Making Christianity intelligible to secular society