Subject: Re: [vserver] Roadmap and Future ...
From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:12:26 +0100

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:19:24AM +0100, ADNET Ghislain wrote:
> Dallas Kashuba a écrit :
> >
> >On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> >
> >>One proposal I have (which was actually tested over
> >>the years, and seems to work - at least for me) would
> >>be that Companies using Linux-VServer get some kind
> >>of 'Service Contract' with a Developer (which is a
> >>good thing anyway), ranging between a single hour
> >>per month up to a day per week, for, let's say 100
> >>EUR per hour, which can be consumed or not, where in
> >>the latter case, this time will be spent on general
> >>Linux-VServer development and testing. (if you like
> >>that idea, please contact me and I'm certain we can
> >>arrange something)
> >>
> >>The big advantage over occasional donations is that
> >>the developer can 'somewhat' rely on that income and
> >>does not need to 'hope' for an upcoming donation.
> >
> >
> >I think you are on the right track here as far as making it possible
> >to spend more of your available time on the project. DreamHost
> >currently provides some amount of ongoing financial support to
> >several open source projects we rely on and would also be interested
> >in this case.
> >
> >
> >>Now for the Roadmap:
> >>
> >>I think what we need most in the near future is a
> >>new, well tested stable release, which can be adopted
> >>by distributions and which will be maintained for
> >>a reasonable amount of time, and that's actually what
> >>I'm working on whenever time permits.
> >>
> >>New features will mainly include adaptations of 'old'
> >>features, lost and forgotten over time, and improve-
> >>ments on the mainline integration (like cgroups and
> >>such), as well as some virtualizations to simplify
> >>handling and make it more guest friendly.
> >>
> >>One upcoming mainline feature which I will try to
> >>integrate as soon as it is available is the check-
> >>pointing and resume functionality.
> >>
> >>I also plan to do a web frontend to control basic
> >>functionality and a minimalistic host distribution
> >>to run Linux-VServer Guests on, but I have no idea
> >>when I will find time for that.
> >>
> >>Finally, as usual, input here is welcome, so if you
> >>have an isolation feature you want to see really soon,
> >>or further questions, please let me know.
> >
> >
> >When I first started using Linux-Vserver the biggest obstacle was lack 
> >of clear documentation. Once I figured out which documents could tell 
> >me what, it got easier.  Right now, though, there's a lack of 
> >documentation on how to use the newer cgroup-based scheduling.  In my 
> >opinion, the biggest weakness of the project today is a lack of 
> >organized documentation.  That is clearly something that could be done 
> >by a volunteer and it's perhaps not the absolute best use of time for 
> >one of the programmers, but on the other hand it does need to be done 
> >by somebody.

> >    Dallas

> that is why i try to document everything i do with vserver on the wiki.

please keep doing so, I think that is valuable input

in the future, I think, we should separate out
'finalized' pages from notes and in progress work
very similar to what wikipedia does to some extend

thanks,
Herbert

> http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cgroups 
> (that is really a mini draft !! )
> http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Cheatsheet

> any help is welcome here !

> I follow the same route as you, hard to find docs you can just read
> the source to have it. Support on IRC is awesome but it's so 90's, few
> people will go there and also we take precious time from Bertl and
> Daniel there.

>  IF you have some internal docs about what you overcome please share it 
> on the wiki. I spent hours trying to figure out the setting for cgroup 
> to work with the vserver-util (yes i am a slow learner even with daniel 
> and bertl's help...) so i shared it on a draft page on the wiki as soon 
> as i had it working :)

> -- 
> Cordialement,
> Ghislain
>