Subject: Re: [vserver] VServer Community; Was: Roadmap and Future ...
From: Dallas Kashuba <dallas@dreamhost.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:02:15 -0800


On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michael S. Zick wrote:

> On Fri February 27 2009, Dallas Kashuba wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:
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>>> On Fri February 27 2009, Michael S. Zick wrote:
>>>> On Fri February 27 2009, ADNET Ghislain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> - - - snip - - -
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes with twoparts, the "Official" docs and contributed doc.  
>>>>> Would be
>>>>> quite cool if we could like in the php or mysql project put
>>>>> comments on
>>>>> the doc's pages. (not changing them but just exemples, use cases
>>>>> etc). I
>>>>> don't know but CMS out there should have this possibility i think.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TikiWiki allows (folding) comments on wiki, blog, articles (at
>>>> least those).
>>>> It also supports importing from other popular CMS products.
>>>> You can have freeTags, catagories, structures. . . (a mind boggling
>>>> number of features).
>>>> It can import and convert a mailing list - (like this one) - - -
>>>> Personal pages, personal groups, general groups, trackers, etc.
>>>> etc. etc.
>>>>
>>>> But, like VServer, if you haven't set it up before yourself -
>>>> either hire someone (some host providers will set it up for you)
>>>> or expect a steep learning curve (in the configuration of your
>>>> installation, not the use).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a specific plan - how do they say it? "A limited time
>>> offer." ;)
>>>
>>> I am in the process of configuring and testing a TikiWiki install
>>> for three
>>> of my own web-sites.  The end result will be something easy (for me)
>>> to
>>> install three varieties of.
>>> I am willing to install a fourth. (Groan, did I offer that?)
>>>
>>> Todo - task list:
>>>
>>> *) @Herbert - contact dreamhost.com - you want a:
>>> **) "My Happy Hosting" - hosting package, includes a domain name
>>> registration
>>> **) "My Unique IP" - just what it sounds like.
>>>
>>> -) Dreamhost.com makes commercial use of Linux-VServer (or your wiki
>>> page is out of date).
>>> The above package is a retail of about $180usd a year; if they will
>>> not donate
>>> that amount to the project (I.E: To support the Linux-VServer
>>> project) . . . <deleted comment>
>>
>>
>> You would be quite right to make a negative comment if a hosting
>> company relying on an open source project would not be willing to
>> donate free hosting to said project!
>>
>
> My apologies, no offense intended.
> You will note that I am a customer of yours already. ;)


No offense taken!  8-)


>
>> It is our 'DreamHost PS' service that is based on Linux-Vserver...
>> http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-vps.html
>>
>> It would make sense that the Linux-Vserver project would be hosted on
>> a vserver, and we would more than happy to donate that service.
>>
>> We have actually already provided some financial support to the  
>> Linux-
>> Vserver project in the past, and we will definitely continue to do
>> so!  Every company of any size has limited financial resources and I
>> like to see our money going to projects that will most benefit from  
>> it.
>>
>>
>> All that said, linux-vserver.org already has hosting somewhere.  Is
>> the current hosting limiting the improvement of the current website?
>>
>
> Let us wait on what the boss has to say - -
> I think this site is still on a personal box in somebody's basement.
> I can not say that for sure, it may have changed a year or two ago.
>
> Mike


Sounds good.

	Dallas




>>> *) @Herbert - give me an ssh/ftp account on the donated hosting  
>>> site.
>>> I would suggest that you pick a "new" domain name while signing up
>>> with DH -
>>> It is included in the package and the existing ones can be moved/
>>> redirected later
>>>
>>> *) @Me - I will do the CMS install and initial configuration -
>>> We start with whatever I have in "my" tarball/sqldump and tweak
>>> features from there;
>>> I expect this to be done in the "open" using the CMS forums, task
>>> lists, and
>>> the existing members contributing to this thread as the "reviewing
>>> public".
>>>
>>> *) @Community - Join in with your comments, suggestions, posts,
>>> whatever - -
>>> This will be your new central home - give us feedback while we have
>>> our hands
>>> on the tuning buttons. ;)
>>>
>>> *) @Community - I have not personally used the "foreign wiki" or
>>> "mailing list"
>>> import functions - I may need some advice and/or editing help.
>>>
>>> *) @Herbert - when we feel it is "as ready as it will get" you can
>>> decide if it
>>> should be moved to /dev/null or put into use.
>>>
>>> *) @Me - I expect it will take me another couple of weeks to get my
>>> own setup
>>> working to my satisfaction - (I am running it internally now) - I
>>> think I
>>> can be ready to clone the setup as soon as that is done.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>> If we all agree that the website would be much improved by switching
>> to TikiWiki (I am only familiar with Mediawiki myself), this sounds
>> like a pretty low-impact approach.
>>
>> 	Dallas
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