Subject: Re: [vserver] VServer Community; Was: Roadmap and Future ...
From: "Michael S. Zick" <mszick@morethan.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:45:51 -0600

On Fri February 27 2009, Dallas Kashuba wrote:
> 
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> 
> > On Fri February 27 2009, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> >> On Fri February 27 2009, ADNET Ghislain wrote:
> >>>
> >> - - - snip - - -
> >>>
> >>> Yes with twoparts, the "Official" docs and contributed doc. Would be
> >>> quite cool if we could like in the php or mysql project put  
> >>> comments on
> >>> the doc's pages. (not changing them but just exemples, use cases  
> >>> etc). I
> >>> don't know but CMS out there should have this possibility i think.
> >>>
> >>
> >> TikiWiki allows (folding) comments on wiki, blog, articles (at  
> >> least those).
> >> It also supports importing from other popular CMS products.
> >> You can have freeTags, catagories, structures. . . (a mind boggling  
> >> number of features).
> >> It can import and convert a mailing list - (like this one) - - -
> >> Personal pages, personal groups, general groups, trackers, etc.  
> >> etc. etc.
> >>
> >> But, like VServer, if you haven't set it up before yourself -
> >> either hire someone (some host providers will set it up for you)
> >> or expect a steep learning curve (in the configuration of your  
> >> installation, not the use).
> >>
> >
> > Here is a specific plan - how do they say it? "A limited time  
> > offer." ;)
> >
> > I am in the process of configuring and testing a TikiWiki install  
> > for three
> > of my own web-sites.  The end result will be something easy (for me)  
> > to
> > install three varieties of.
> > I am willing to install a fourth. (Groan, did I offer that?)
> >
> > Todo - task list:
> >
> > *) @Herbert - contact dreamhost.com - you want a:
> > **) "My Happy Hosting" - hosting package, includes a domain name  
> > registration
> > **) "My Unique IP" - just what it sounds like.
> >
> > -) Dreamhost.com makes commercial use of Linux-VServer (or your wiki  
> > page is out of date).
> > The above package is a retail of about $180usd a year; if they will  
> > not donate
> > that amount to the project (I.E: To support the Linux-VServer  
> > project) . . . <deleted comment>
> 
> 
> You would be quite right to make a negative comment if a hosting  
> company relying on an open source project would not be willing to  
> donate free hosting to said project!
> 

My apologies, no offense intended.  
You will note that I am a customer of yours already. ;)


> It is our 'DreamHost PS' service that is based on Linux-Vserver...
> http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-vps.html
> 
> It would make sense that the Linux-Vserver project would be hosted on  
> a vserver, and we would more than happy to donate that service.
> 
> We have actually already provided some financial support to the Linux- 
> Vserver project in the past, and we will definitely continue to do  
> so!  Every company of any size has limited financial resources and I  
> like to see our money going to projects that will most benefit from it.
> 
> 
> All that said, linux-vserver.org already has hosting somewhere.  Is  
> the current hosting limiting the improvement of the current website?
> 

Let us wait on what the boss has to say - -
I think this site is still on a personal box in somebody's basement.
I can not say that for sure, it may have changed a year or two ago.

Mike
> 
> > *) @Herbert - give me an ssh/ftp account on the donated hosting site.
> > I would suggest that you pick a "new" domain name while signing up  
> > with DH -
> > It is included in the package and the existing ones can be moved/ 
> > redirected later
> >
> > *) @Me - I will do the CMS install and initial configuration -
> > We start with whatever I have in "my" tarball/sqldump and tweak  
> > features from there;
> > I expect this to be done in the "open" using the CMS forums, task  
> > lists, and
> > the existing members contributing to this thread as the "reviewing  
> > public".
> >
> > *) @Community - Join in with your comments, suggestions, posts,  
> > whatever - -
> > This will be your new central home - give us feedback while we have  
> > our hands
> > on the tuning buttons. ;)
> >
> > *) @Community - I have not personally used the "foreign wiki" or  
> > "mailing list"
> > import functions - I may need some advice and/or editing help.
> >
> > *) @Herbert - when we feel it is "as ready as it will get" you can  
> > decide if it
> > should be moved to /dev/null or put into use.
> >
> > *) @Me - I expect it will take me another couple of weeks to get my  
> > own setup
> > working to my satisfaction - (I am running it internally now) - I  
> > think I
> > can be ready to clone the setup as soon as that is done.
> >
> > Mike
> 
> 
> If we all agree that the website would be much improved by switching  
> to TikiWiki (I am only familiar with Mediawiki myself), this sounds  
> like a pretty low-impact approach.
> 
> 	Dallas
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