Subject: Re: [vserver] VServer Community; Was: Roadmap and Future ...
From: Dallas Kashuba <dallas@dreamhost.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:22:57 -0800


On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:

> On Fri February 27 2009, Michael S. Zick wrote:
>> On Fri February 27 2009, ADNET Ghislain wrote:
>>>
>> - - - snip - - -
>>>
>>> Yes with twoparts, the "Official" docs and contributed doc. Would be
>>> quite cool if we could like in the php or mysql project put  
>>> comments on
>>> the doc's pages. (not changing them but just exemples, use cases  
>>> etc). I
>>> don't know but CMS out there should have this possibility i think.
>>>
>>
>> TikiWiki allows (folding) comments on wiki, blog, articles (at  
>> least those).
>> It also supports importing from other popular CMS products.
>> You can have freeTags, catagories, structures. . . (a mind boggling  
>> number of features).
>> It can import and convert a mailing list - (like this one) - - -
>> Personal pages, personal groups, general groups, trackers, etc.  
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> But, like VServer, if you haven't set it up before yourself -
>> either hire someone (some host providers will set it up for you)
>> or expect a steep learning curve (in the configuration of your  
>> installation, not the use).
>>
>
> Here is a specific plan - how do they say it? "A limited time  
> offer." ;)
>
> I am in the process of configuring and testing a TikiWiki install  
> for three
> of my own web-sites.  The end result will be something easy (for me)  
> to
> install three varieties of.
> I am willing to install a fourth. (Groan, did I offer that?)
>
> Todo - task list:
>
> *) @Herbert - contact dreamhost.com - you want a:
> **) "My Happy Hosting" - hosting package, includes a domain name  
> registration
> **) "My Unique IP" - just what it sounds like.
>
> -) Dreamhost.com makes commercial use of Linux-VServer (or your wiki  
> page is out of date).
> The above package is a retail of about $180usd a year; if they will  
> not donate
> that amount to the project (I.E: To support the Linux-VServer  
> project) . . . <deleted comment>


You would be quite right to make a negative comment if a hosting  
company relying on an open source project would not be willing to  
donate free hosting to said project!

It is our 'DreamHost PS' service that is based on Linux-Vserver...
http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-vps.html

It would make sense that the Linux-Vserver project would be hosted on  
a vserver, and we would more than happy to donate that service.

We have actually already provided some financial support to the Linux- 
Vserver project in the past, and we will definitely continue to do  
so!  Every company of any size has limited financial resources and I  
like to see our money going to projects that will most benefit from it.


All that said, linux-vserver.org already has hosting somewhere.  Is  
the current hosting limiting the improvement of the current website?


> *) @Herbert - give me an ssh/ftp account on the donated hosting site.
> I would suggest that you pick a "new" domain name while signing up  
> with DH -
> It is included in the package and the existing ones can be moved/ 
> redirected later
>
> *) @Me - I will do the CMS install and initial configuration -
> We start with whatever I have in "my" tarball/sqldump and tweak  
> features from there;
> I expect this to be done in the "open" using the CMS forums, task  
> lists, and
> the existing members contributing to this thread as the "reviewing  
> public".
>
> *) @Community - Join in with your comments, suggestions, posts,  
> whatever - -
> This will be your new central home - give us feedback while we have  
> our hands
> on the tuning buttons. ;)
>
> *) @Community - I have not personally used the "foreign wiki" or  
> "mailing list"
> import functions - I may need some advice and/or editing help.
>
> *) @Herbert - when we feel it is "as ready as it will get" you can  
> decide if it
> should be moved to /dev/null or put into use.
>
> *) @Me - I expect it will take me another couple of weeks to get my  
> own setup
> working to my satisfaction - (I am running it internally now) - I  
> think I
> can be ready to clone the setup as soon as that is done.
>
> Mike


If we all agree that the website would be much improved by switching  
to TikiWiki (I am only familiar with Mediawiki myself), this sounds  
like a pretty low-impact approach.

	Dallas