On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 00:48 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: > Am Montag, den 28.12.2009, 18:12 -0500 schrieb John A. Sullivan III: > > On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 23:24 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: > > > For NX you don't need no harware xorg packages at all. Just get rid of > > > all xorg-* packages. I have installed xserver-common though. > > > Watch out for meta-packages like ubuntu-desktop that probably depend on > > > lots of hardware stuff (and pull these in). > > > > > > The biggest pain is (this %!$%^ half finished and strange behaving) > > > upstart. See the wiki for this (/var/run and /var/lock as tmpfs inside > > > the guest helps alot!). > > > > > > I have a working karmic vserver with NX and no extra capabilities. > > > Though this was a jaunty vserver which I upgraded and fiddled around > > > alot to get it working. The upstart wiki entry was the result of this. > > > But I can't exactly tell which of my settings/changes got me the NX > > > stuff running. > > > > > > I'd be happy to help you with specific NX issues and maybe you wanna > > > document this too. > > > > > > Attached is the list of packages installed on that vserver (dpkg > > > --get-selections) (note that this is probably much more than you > > > want/need) > > > > > > regards, > > > Tom > > <snip> > > Thanks, very, very much. I did find the upstart wiki article very > > helpful and have implemented it and I do suspect it is the meta packages > > that are pulling in the unnecessary packages. Time to start weeding > > through! - John > > Most likely you will encouter more issues like I did, but as I said, I > don't know anymore what exactly solved the specific problem. So feel > free to contact me off-list as I don't want to clutter the list with my > wild guesses, though once this is solved a summary on the list / wiki > article would be a good thing. > > Tom > I'm almost there. There are a number of offending meta-packages including kde-{standard,full,minimal} xorg ubuntu-desktop. In our case, we wanted to install virtually all the end user applications as we are providing desktops to external clients. This list could certainly use some cleaning, (e.g., eliminating sub-packages that are included in main packages) but here is what has worked so far: vapt-get vdbase -- install apt less joe openssh-server gimp evolution firefox thunderbird qcad qcad-data basket dia gnucash scribus mozilla-plugin-vlc audacity filezilla inkscape kpovmodeler povray xsane sane-utils unrar unrar-free wamerican wspanish wbritish wcanadian witalian wfrench wogerman lookup gv evolution-exchange evolution-plugins-experimental evolution-documentation-en gnome-spell latex-xft-fonts gimp-data-extras gimp-help-en libgimp-perl gnupg-doc xloadimage groff libxml-xql-perl skencil aspell ispell hspell lame kde-i18n-it kde-i18n-fr kde-i18n-es kde-i18n-de kde-i18n-engb efax hylafax-client smbclient cupsys-common html2ps ttf-arphic-bkai00mp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-gkai00mp ttf-baekmuk ttf-kochi-mincho libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc libqt3-mt-psql librsvg2-bin hpoj speex libtiff-opengl libterm-readline-gnu-perl libterm-readline-perl-perl povray-doc povray-examples iptables unpaper scribus-doc scribus-template tclreadline gs-gpl gs-esp ghostscript xserver-common xfs msttcorefonts mesa-utils xsane-doc ncompress p7zip-full unzip libnss-mdns libpam-ck-connector dbus-x11 gsfonts-x11 evolution-plugins spamassassin bogofilter yelp filezilla-common curl gimp-python gnucash-docs imagemagick libwmf-bin perlmagick pstoedit python-lxml python-numpy flac vorbis-tools aspell-en aspell-it aspell-fr aspell-es aspell-de libpaper-utils libcompress-zlib-perl libhtml-format-perl libmailtools-perl xml-core perl-doc povray-includes qcad-doc perl-tk texlive-base-bin-doc texlive-fonts-recommended-doc myspell-en-us myspell-it myspell-de-de myspell-fr myspell-es xterm twinkle konsole pdfedit rdesktop zip bzip2 ocrad gocr cupsys-client openprinting-ppds openprinting-ppds-extra kscreensaver-xsavers spellutils xhtml2ps klamav language-support-es language-support-it ca-certificates p7zip-rar smbfs xfonts-cyrillic x-ttcidfont-conf acroread ttf-bengali-fonts ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-kannada-fonts ttf-oriya-fonts ttf-telugu-fonts ttf-wqy-zenhei tzdata-java equivs icedtea-gcjwebplugin sun-java6-fonts rhino-doc openjdk-6-jre strace libxp6 flashplugin-installer postgresql-client sshfs lsof ssh libpam-foreground ssh-askpass pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libasound2-plugins pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils padevchooser paman paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter xournal firefox-webdeveloper openoffice.org-help-en-us openoffice.org-help-en-gb openoffice.org-dmaths openoffice.org openoffice.org-style-andromeda openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-style-human openoffice.org-style-industrial openoffice.org-style-oxygen openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-evolution gimp-dcraw gimp-dds gimp-gap gimp-gutenprint gimp-plugin-registry gimp-resynthesizer gimp-texturize helix-player kflickr openclipart tesseract-ocr-eng tesseract-ocr-spa amarok kde-style-qtcurve kde-style-bespin kde-style-polyester kde-style-skulpture kde-thumbnailer-openoffice plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-quickaccess speedcrunch kgrab kleansweep kopete-facebook koverartist kphotoalbum kraft krecipes kwin-style-aurorae kwin-style-crystal kwin-style-dekorator plasma-widget-adjustableclock plasma-widget-bkodama plasma-widget-customizable-weather plasma-widget-daisy plasma-widget-drop2ftp plasma-widget-fancytasks plasma-widget-flickr plasma-widget-fortunoid plasma-widget-kepas plasma-widget-logout plasma-widget-mail plasma-widget-nextwallpaper plasma-widget-pgame plasma-widget-runcommand plasma-widget-searchmoid plasma-widget-spellcheck plasma-widget-stasks plasma-widget-stockquote plasma-widget-teacooker plasma-widget-tictactoe plasma-widget-translatoid plasma-widget-weatherforecast plasma-widget-windowlist plasma-widget-xbar qtcurve qtodo qwit semantik kubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-extras mplayer-fonts sun-java6-fonts pdfshuffler openoffice.org-pdfimport openoffice.org-presentation-minimizer openoffice.org-report-builder openoffice.org-sdbc-postgresql openoffice.org-wiki-publisher festival festival-freebsoft-utils grandfatherclock kguitar rosegarden mozilla-openoffice.org openoffice.org-writer2xhtml sun-java6-plugin firefox-showcase firefox-linky linkchecker-gui mozplugger quanta ocropus kdebase klipper x11-apps xinput x11-session-utils x11-xfs-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable gnome-applets-data gnome-panel-data gnome-games-common screen gstreamer0.10-nice empathy eog espeak evince evolution-couchdb f-spot file-roller mscompress gcalctool gconf-editor gedit glchess glines gnibbles gnobots2 gnect gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-blackjack gnome-codec-install gnome-sudoku gnometris gnomine gnotravex gnotski gtali gnome-mahjongg gnome-games gnome-mag gnome-orca gnome-screensaver gnome-terminal gnome-themes-selected humanity-icon-theme gnome-themes-ubuntu gnome-utils gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gucharmap gvfs-fuse human-theme jockey-gtk lftp media-player-info mtools nautilus-sendto nautilus-share notify-osd notify-osd-icons rhythmbox screensaver-default-images seahorse ssh-askpass-gnome telepathy-idle tomboy totem-plugins totem-mozilla transmission-gtk ttf-kacst ttf-lao ttf-thai-tlwg ttf-unfonts-core ttf-vlgothic ubuntu-wallpapers ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-sounds usplash xdg-user-dirs-gtk ubuntu-xsplash-artwork xsplash vinagre vino xcursor-themes evolution-indicator kdegraphics kdeutils kdeaccessibility kdepim kdegames kdemultimedia kdeedu kdetoys kdeadmin kdeartwork krdc krfb kget kdeplasma-addons graphviz kate kimagemapeditor We hit a few bumps along the way. From our internal documentation: "We did the above installation in phases to narrow down the offending meta-packages. After the installation of "postgresql-client sshfs lsof ssh libpam-foreground ssh-askpass pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libasound2-plugins pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils padevchooser paman paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter xournal firefox-webdeveloper openoffice.org-help-en-us openoffice.org-help-en-gb openoffice.org-dmaths openoffice.org openoffice.org-style-andromeda openoffice.org-style-galaxy", we hung on "Regenerating hal fdi cache ?" and interrupted with Ctr-C. We then had to enter vdbase and run dpkg --configure -a. After this, all seemed to work well. We hit the same problem after doing "gimp-gutenprint gimp-plugin-registry gimp-resynthesizer gimp-texturize helix-player kflickr openclipart tesseract-ocr-eng tesseract-ocr-spa amarok kde-style-qtcurve kde-style-bespin kde-style-polyester kde-style-skulpture kde-thumbnailer-openoffice plasma-widget-facebook plasma-widget-quickaccess speedcrunch kgrab kleansweep kopete-facebook koverartist kphotoalbum kraft krecipes kwin-style-aurorae kwin-style-crystal"." We also found problems after doing an apt-get upgrade. rsyslog and udev are not configuring and hanging during the process. We're also having some grief installing wine1.2 as it wants to register with /proc/sys/fs/binftm-misc or whatever that file is. We'll tackle that later. I was hoping to report that we had successfully tested it but X2Go is calling xserver-xorg as a dependency! We'll hit that again tomorrow. Thanks for your help - John