On Sun March 1 2009, Michael S. Zick wrote: > On Sat February 28 2009, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 01:43:42PM +0100, randall wrote: > > > noticed a huge amount of mails on this subject this morning and > > > its good to see many idea's, please allow to me to be the first to > > > introduce a mockup, i did this in the last hour so its far from > > > finished but at least its an idea. > > > > > Lets see what we have already and try to keep it simple and make use > > > of the right tools for each specific task, at the moment there is a > > > great wiki with good content. Have used it myself once and its easy > > > to contribute new content. > > > > > wiki.linux-vserver.org > > > > > maybe someone might be willing to give some thought on the layout of the > > > data structure as it is displayed on the wiki frontpage only with up to > > > date finished content to make sure a first arriver can more easily find > > > what he (or she) is looking for. > > > > > ====maybe also ==== > > > a simpler page > > > <code> > > > explaining the wiki syntax > > > </code> > > > > > forum.linux-vserver.org > > > > > are we willing to support this?? > > > > I don't have a problem with a forum ... > > > > combining the forum with the mailinglist would make it > > a lot easier to follow and reply though ... i.e. the > > best solution would be if the mailing list (including > > archives) would exist as forum content and posting > > something on the forum would show up on the mailing > > list (maybe with special tags or on a special list) > > too ... no idea if that is easy to do though :) > > > > I am pretty sure that is a standard feature with what I am > working on - from the documentation - - I haven't personally > integrated a mailing list as a forum. You know about O.S. docs... > > But yes, if it does the basic integration, the FreeTags and > categories will then work cross-section. > > On my list to test. > > > > the mailing list is great but many new users prefer a forum to ask for > > > support and can browse the subjects without having to sign up first > > > when investigating various visualization techniques, the benefit of an > > > active forum is that it clearly indicates an active community and that > > > would be a good sign. Also the most frequently asked questions would > > > give us some clear idea on how to improve the documentation. > > > > > a simple phpbb installation would be sufficient for this, i could set > > > this up later. > > > > > > www.linux-vserver.org > > > > > > the front page of the project, i have setup a simple wordpress example > > > on http://test.songshu.org (just set up the dns so be patient if it does > > > not resolve at once) not finished and needs some more work to make it > > > slick (have to go now for social obligations so will work on that tomorrow) > > > > looks good to me, even with lynx, maybe some minor tweaks > > like making the menu bar a little less high, and of course > > really nice would be to add some aqua like effect to logo > > as well as menu bar, I think :) > > > > Set your total browser size not larger than 1024x600 - - > The most common size of the light-weight Netbooks for road warriors. > > Then do a visual appraisal of the balance between logo/banner and > usable text - - > Nobody in today's world presses "page down" short of death. ;) > > > > maybe we can set up a colour scheme idea for all Vserver sites? > > > maybe get some nice artwork to go where the flower images are > > > right now or loose the headed images all together. > > > (anybody creative for designing the image(s)?) > > Sorry for the multiple replies to a single post - I think slow these days. ;) We want to project a solid, dependable, software project - My first attempt will be to stay with muted, soft colors and blends - Using the linked to sample of the fluidindex (a Wordpress theme) CSS - Only the colors will be based on the two prodominate colors in the Linux-VServer logo (so the entire style just appears as a variation of the logo). You have probably noticed that style uses a handfull of blends (as gif images) rather than hard lines. Something which slows the browser rendering down a bit. Personally, I avoid those styles, but I think this case is a justified exception. My tentative plan is to do a 3D mockup of a page and render it with Povray - just to get the highlights and colored shadows correct. What is art without a computer? > > > Home > > > the frontpage right know is reserved for "big" announcements, maybe a > > > nice job for Bertl to do a bi-weekly or so update when import things > > > happen > > > > yep, can do that, at least it could be something like a > > Linux-VServer Blog ... > > Most source control software has a feature to "send mail" on commits - - Intended (back in the day) to feed an announcement mailing list. This CMS package (and maybe WikiMedia - you might check it) supports "mail-in" page updates. Why not just let the SCM do this? Feed its "commit mails" to a "mail-in" page? or pages? Will add that to my test list to see if it is working. > > "nothing happened this week, so I ported 2.3.x to > > the lates release candidate ... what a mess, but > > see for yourself here ... " > > > > > About > > > some content from wikipedia right now but it should have some more > > > simpler explanation, think of appealing to a CEO with nice pictures. > > We do have an image gallery - Will make sure the "Article" section is working. A good place for those original papers on the concept and a place for new ones. The question of having a certain type of section (articles, blogs, wiki forums, etc, etc) is a checkbox on the admin's "site features" page. We don't have to try to cross breed a Wiki product with a Forum product, etc. The admin can just turn them on/off - - The user can either mentally ignore them or drop them from his/her menu. The one restriction is, the package must have either a wiki or a forum enabled. Everything else is an admin on/off feature. Hmmm... Maybe I should post a screen-shot of that admin page - to save people time on the "can we do this?" types of questions. See a post on a nearby mailing list, RSN. Mike > > > Distro Support > > > a list of all distro's that lead to a small page of that distro in > > > wordpress explaining that "it is supported" or "don't worry its simple > > > to patch" with a link to a distro specific landing page on the wiki > > > giving some practical installation instructions for each of that > > > distro's release. > > > > Use the "Categories" feature - - it will let you tie pages from any > of the various sections (wiki, blog, article, forum, etc, etc) into > into a "Table of Contents" sort of page(s). > > Similar to FreeTags in that Categories are not bound to a section. > > > basically we support _all_ distros, but yeah, pages > > like those on the wiki (installing Linux-VServer on > > debian/ubuntu/wossname are definitely useful, as long > > as then end with the installation procedure) > > > > > (maybe we can find some people making/updating these distro wiki > > > pages) > > > > IMHO a good idea would be to provide 'icons' on the > > main (or at least on the installation page) for the > > major or specifically nice/problematic distros, so > > that e.g. the alpine fan recognizes her/his distro ... > > > > Just put the icons in the images gallery, link to them from > wherever you are working. > > > hint: that could be work done by the distro maintainer(s) > > > > Yeah, like you expect a code maintainer to do documentation? > Code cutters generally don't do those sort of things. ;) > > Mike > > > Vserver Hosting > > > a page like this http://linux-vserver.org/VServer_Hosting , maybe > > > linking to a page in wordpress for that specific hoster, for example, > > > dreamhost might even be willing to pay for an "advertisement" page > > > like that instead of donations as they mentioned earlier. > > > > > as said before this was just an hour work so far from complete but its > > > an idea. > > > > nice job (looking at the current version)! > > well done! > > > > best, > > Herbert > > > > > -- > > > > > > www.songshu.org > > > Just another collection of nuts > > > > > > > >