Hello Herbert Am 2019-01-21 09:56, schrieb Herbert Poetzl: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 07:59:13PM +0100, > roman.pretory@austrianonlines.com wrote: >> Laurent, > >> At first thanks for infos, :-) > > Hello Roman, > >> I have look on it for 60min, in this time i have a running >> vserver on CentOs7 with LXD, troubles to config to run on a own >> interface, but this could be fixed spending more time, the main >> trouble a have with the differt uid's, and thats comming from >> Ubuntu => so Lts 3 years not part of Centos if this is a good >> choice, but which options are left. > >> Nice page good infos, doku, well done, but vserver is now >> running on my servers since Rh9, why did't they get it run, >> no Enterpise Disto no Debian no ... works anymore what are >> the patch for??? > > Not sure what you are asking here (or complaining about?) > Who is 'they' and 'what should they have gotten running'? 'they' => http://linux-vserver.org/Developers gotten running => Debian, Redhat, Suse.. that disros are most in use, could be a good restart again. > >> And by the way is it not awful LXD posts on this list?, > > Why would it be 'awful' when 'mainline' features get mentioned? 'mainline' feature ??? yes realy I did't, see this like that > >> from so much users, and I'm frustrated to get not direkt answer >> like yes working on it, no never, fuck off, anything i could >> work with, planning future with or without. > > I already replied that nobody bothered to mess with systemd > for several reasons and that I consider it doable but not > worth the time unless there is clear interest. yes.....i read this and that years ago... clear than now ? it will never be anymore, where should it come from?, there was more positv feedback years ago no support for big Distros = > less user of vserver => smaller feedback => closed Project thats realy the way you what to go? , soory i can't believe :-( BGR > >> Did't really anyone use those Distros without systemd, for >> what if ?? > > No idea what that means ... > > Best, > Herbert > >> BRG Roman > > > > > > > > > >> Am 2019-01-20 15:33, schrieb Laurent Spagnol: >>> Hi, > >>> Le 20/01/2019 à 09:50, Alber Lvs a écrit : >>>> On 17-01-19 09:05, Alber Lvs wrote: > >>>>> LXD is being packaged for Debian, while the older LXC is packaged >>>>> for >>>>> Debian. >>>>> I must say I much prefer LXD over LXC. >>>>> With Ubuntu as LXD (or LXC) host you will likely have a much easier >>>>> time >>>>> installing and maintaining time than having LXC or maybe in the >>>>> future >>>>> LXD on Debian. > >>>> Quite some negative voices about LXC on this mailing list. >>>> When I tried LXC years ago it was a sad state of affairs indeed. But >>>> Debian Linux was going to drop kernel support for Linux Vserver, and >>>> they hinted in the Debian wiki that LXC would be the future, so I >>>> hopes >>>> for LXC progress. >>>> Every now and then I looked at LXC and it was only making slow >>>> progress, >>>> and the command line tools were very cumbersome to use. > >>>> However, LXD is very different. Easy to set up in Ubuntu. >>>> It has nice command line name completion. >>>> For example, type in : sudo lxc exec t.. <tab> and it will complete >>>> to >>>> sudo lxc exec test-server (Where test-server is the name of your >>>> container). >>>> By default LXD creates containers which have a different root >>>> UIG/GID >>>> in >>>> the containers for security reasons. That can cause some confusion >>>> when >>>> you are copying files as root from the host to a container >>>> directory, >>>> but once you understand how to fix those permissions it is fine. > >>>> With LXD you can even run Docker inside a container! > >>> With LXC too, and you can run LXC containers inside LXC container => >>> "nested" containers. > >>> There is no diffence beetween LXC and LXD in terms of >>> functionalities. >>> It's just the same thing !! > >>> LXC is based on a flat configuration file, it's very simple to use, >>> especially on a single host. > >>> LXD is "cluster" oriented, based on a deamon, and containers's >>> configuruations are in a database (SQLite if i rememmber). > >>> LXD is the default on Ubuntu Server. It's a good choice fot beginers. > >>> But I prefers "old school flat files", so i remove LXD and use "old >>> style" LXC. It is more simple with complex configurations ! > >>> I was a fan of Linux-Vserver, i have wroted some scripts to play with >>> VLANs, conditional routing and netfilter (this was a long time ago, >>> before "veth" ...) but finally i choose LXC when it was good enough >>> for "production". I use it for years (mostly over ZFS), it works like >>> a charms. > >>> LS > > > >>>> https://blog.simos.info/how-to-run-docker-in-a-lxd-container/ > > >>> -- >>> Laurent Spagnol >>> Administrateur GNU/Linux > >>> Responsable du pôle système >>> Service réseau et télécom >>> Direction du Numérique > >>> Université de Reims >>> Campus du Moulin de la Housse >>> Bâtiment 3 >>> BP 1039 - 51687 Reims cedex 2 > >>> Plan d'accès : https://frama.link/DN-URCA > >>> Tel: +33 3 26 91 88 32 >>> Fax: +33 3 26 91 31 87 > >>> https://numerique.univ-reims.fr